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In light of recent changes around LJ land, we will soon be importing this community to DreamWidth as a backup. I didn't want to risk over a decade of Firefly-themed fic posts being lost if the worst happens.

For the curious, is our eventual destination (alas, our exact name was already taken over there).

If anyone does not wish their posts to get imported to DW, you will need to go in and delete them. Eiither do so here on LJ beforehand or on DW afterwards using the OpenID identity account that corresponds to the post in question. Anyone who wants to delete their posts is welcome to, though I hope most people won't because it'd be sad to lose any fic.

The import should happen within the next few days, though I can't give an exact date since it depends on the DW import queue.

Once the imported archive is live on DW, it will be a static copy of things over here as they are now. The only way to update with any new LJ posts is to do a re-import. We don't get nearly as much traffic around here as we used to, so I don't see that being necessary for a while. Though obviously it's a fully working DW community, so people could join it and begin using it over there, and I welcome anyone who wishes to do so!

I'll let you guys know when the import is done.



Apr. 10th, 2017 02:34 pm
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Well, here we are. This is an imported community from livejournal that originated waaaaaaay back in October of 2003. Our purpose is to be a home for any kind of Firefly/Serenity fanfic.

After the latest updates on LJ, I've imported us over here because I was worried about us possibly getting TOSed over there.

This is a static copy of everything that was on the LJ comm as of April 2017, but I would love if it became a fully functional DW community in its own right.

So please feel free to join and post your Firefly fic. Any ratings, any pairings, it's all welcome here!

Posting rules are on the profile page, and more information about tagging your fic is in the other sticky post.

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First off, to everyone who is taking the time to properly tag all their fics here, THANK YOU! You are totally awesome!!! :-)

Secondly, as much as I'd like to make sure that every single story is tagged, I simply don't have the time. I've gone through hundreds (maybe even thousands) of stories here, and that didn't even seem to scratch the surface. We have TONS of authors writing TONS of shiny fics, with more coming in each day. So I'm going to have to officially turn it over to you guys to manage your own tags from now on. I simply don't have the time to go back through and check them all.

So, perhaps you're wondering WHY you should bother tagging your fic, hmmm? Well, I'll tell you. Tagging your fic makes it easier for others to find it. Plain and simple. If I'm looking for a kick-ass River fic, my first course of action is to click on the "river" tag. And if your fic hasn't been tagged, then it WON'T SHOW UP. So essentially, after it drops off the main page of entries, it will vanish into the bowls of our community, and the likelihood of someone finding it to read it go way down. But if it's tagged appropriately, then somebody like me who's looking through the "river" tag, for instance, will be able to find TONS of older fic, all about the youngest Tam. And boom, your fic gets read again and possibly even receives some shiny feedback!

However, tagging is not a requirement by any means. If you don't do it, I'm not going to come make you or anything. It simply means that your fic has a smaller chance of being noticed once it drops off the main page.

Anyway, okay, so now that I've talked some about WHY you should tag, here's a little bit about HOW you should tag. You see, it seems like a few of our tags are a touch unclear, so here's the skinny on the ones most often misused:

  1. The "serenity" tag is not for fic written about the pilot episode or the movie. It's for fic that include the starship Serenity as a major character in some way. That doesn't mean your fic about the ship Serenity can't take place during either of those times, because it can, but the timing alone does not equal use of the "serenity" tag. The ship itself MUST be a major character or play an especially important role in the fic for that tag to apply.

  2. When adding your entry tags, please DO NOT use the "other" tag for regular fic posts. It is not meant to signify a character other than the main nine. Rather, it is for non-fic posts. (e.g. beta requests, links, etc.) Okay, so some people couldn't seem to get a handle on this, so I've renamed the tag to "non-fic" instead, and deleted the tag from all the posts that used it inappropriately. Hopefully this will prevent further confusion on the matter.

  3. If you are using a minor character from the show (i.e. characters like Saffron, Mr. Universe, Nandi, etc.) and there isn't an entry tag created for them yet, please let me know by making a post with the subject line "Tag Request" and the name of the character you need a tag for. Once I've created the appropriate tag, I will delete the post, so there's no need to tag your tag request posts. And if you make your tag request post and more than a week passes without a reply of some sort from me (sometimes RL gets busy and I can't check on my LJ communities as much as I'd like to), then please drop me a comment, either in my personal journal or on one of my posts here. And hopefully then I'll get the email notification and be able to quickly make you the tag that you need.

  4. If you're writing a crossover with another show/movie/book/etc. then please use the "xover" tag on your story. However, you will not be able to tag your story with the name of the secondary fandom or the names of any non-Firefly characters. Just using "xover" will have to suffice.

  5. If your story features an original character of some sort, either use "omc" or "ofc" (depending on if your new character is a man or a woman).

Okay, tagging lecture over. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Firefly fic!
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Alright everyone, I know it's been a while, but it's time for a little administrative business!

First off, this is a Firefly-only comm. Please do not post things that do not pertain to the show. I just had to delete a spam post, which made me frown. Your posts need to be about Firefly: namely FANFICTION dealing with Firefly! You are allowed to post ads/pimping for other Firefly related things on a limited basis, but that's it. So, for instance, "WATCH MOVIES ONLINE FOR FREE" posts will not be allowed. They will be deleted and marked as spam.

Secondly, I've changed the community status back to unlocked. I have always preferred this comm to be open to anyone who wished to read the stories, and so I decided to restore that aspect. All posts that were locked may be retroactively unlocked if the author wishes. I will leave that up to the discretion of the individual authors. But going forward, all posts will default to unlocked. HOWEVER, I would take it as a kindness if any posts containing Tamcest would be locked by the authors. If I see a post with R or higher rated Simon/River that is unlocked, I will first post a comment requesting the author to lock it. And then, if after a day or so it is not locked, I will delete it. But this will ONLY be for Tamcest posts, nothing else. And if anyone else notices a Tamcest post that is unlocked that I may have missed, please feel free to let me know about it so that I might ask for it to be locked. I'd appreciate it a lot!

And lastly, the status of the community has been changed to "Adult Content" because I felt there was enough R and NC17 fic posted here to warrant it. So if you see that little "this community might have adult content" warning, that's why.

Thank you and goodnight from your friendly, neighborhood mod! :-)
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Okay, so as it stands right now, we're quite a bit short of what we'd need help-wise to make it feasible to lock just the adult posts.

Basically, with the amount of help that has been offered, we could assign one year (+ or - a couple of months) to be split amongst the volunteers, which would leave about 3 years to be tackled by [ profile] kernelm and myself. That's close to twenty months worth of posts each that would need to be gone through, every single post being evaluated on a case-by-case basis. And though I appreciate and even agree that the comm would be better served by only locking the adult stuff, I just don't have the time to go through that many posts by myself, and neither does he.

I'm going to give the poll another day or two, but if things continue to go as they have been, expect me to begin the full lockdown sometime this weekend, or perhaps early next week.

Thanks for all your input, guys! And also, thank you to everyone who volunteered to help. It really means a lot to me, even though it looks like your help probably won't wind up being required.

ETA 08/24/07: We've gotten some more responses in the poll, and the numbers are starting to look better. I'd still like to get a few more helpers if possible, but things are looking up. I'll actually go through and get a more thorough break down of the numbers this weekend and let you guys know how things look.
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Okay, so thanks to many concerned parties giving me information in the earlier thread about locking the comm, we've managed to clarify that some of the more worrisome aspects of LJ's TOS are specified for photos/art, and not for text/stories. However, due to the craziness at LJ lately, it's hard to 100% trust in anything they say. So I have decided that no matter what we need to lock the adult material down. It's safer for the comm's maintainers; it's safer for all the authors, and it's just safer for the comm in general. However, I don't necessarily think that EVERYTHING needs to be locked.

So here's the deal. We have a script that will allow us to automatically comment on all unlocked posts asking for locks. It's been tested on a dummy comm, and it passed with flying colors. This same script will help us search out unlocked posts for deletion should it come to that. Basically, by using this script, doing a full-comm lockdown will be fairly easy and stress free, and it won't require a bunch of extra help from you guys (other than the simple act of locking any stories you get comment notifications on).

But just locking the adult fic? That makes everything MUCH more complex. That requires people to go through and check each month, evaluating each fic on a case-by-case basis to see if it requires locking. Sure, we can modify the script to look for certain trigger words like R, NC17, adult, CSI, Tamcest, etc. However, that isn't 100% guaranteed, and should only be used as a way to get us started. Also, even after all the past stuff is sorted, what about the future stuff? We'll need to have people continually checking to make sure the guidelines are being followed.

Basically, to lock the whole comm, we won't need much (if any) help. But to only lock adult fic, we need help. Serious help.

So here's the poll. Please vote honestly. If you want only adult fic locked, but you can't help out at all, then say so. Do not promise help if you can't give it. And be honest about the amount of help you can give. Don't say you can help a lot, when you can really only help a little, if at all.

I know I asked some of this before in the old poll, but please indulge me by voting again. And don't sign up for more than you know you can do.

And just to be clear, if I don't get enough of a response, I'll be locking the whole comm. This isn't a threat or anything; it's just facts. If I don't have enough people to help, the task becomes too monumental for me to undertake alone.

Thanks for your input! And I promise that this will all be sorted out soon.

[Poll #1042468]

Oh, and remember that "a month's worth" just means one month of fic in the archive (i.e. you might be assigned the month of June 2005, for example). To comment on them shouldn't take more than a few hours on average if you sat down and just did the whole month at once. At the most, it might be a job for a couple of nights in a row, I should think. This has yet to be officially tested, but that's my ballpark guess. And all amounts are negotiable. I'm just trying to get a feel for who can help more and who can't.
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Okay, GreatestJournal is ahead in the poll, but InsaneJournal is making a pretty decent showing, too. So I decided it would be prudent to just reserve our name in both places. If you have an acct. at either hosting service, feel free to friend/join the new comm. However, it's just a placeholder for now, so there won't be much going on there.

But anyhoo, in the event of a TOSing (god forbid!) here at our main home, look to these places for details on how we'll be proceeding.

ETA: Reserved our name at JF, too. Figured it couldn't hurt. Link added above.

I also have personal journals hosted on all three sites (IJ, GJ, JF), and they are under the same username (virtualinsomnia), so if the worst happens and info is slow in coming on the comms, you could always check there, as well.
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I'm planning on making a backup of the whole archive that will remain offline for now, and it will be updated once a week or so. I already have the framework for this in place, and a backup from back in May when this whole thing with LJ went down the first time. (Say thanks to the awesome [ profile] kernelm for making this happen!)

I don't want to actually make a full-on secondary archive online until I'm forced to, as this will be a huge amount of work, I'm sure. However, I would like to try and reserve our name at the service of our choice. That way, should the worst happen, you guys will already know exactly where the archive will turn back up.

So, to that end, a poll...

[Poll #1036653]

Relevant links

The four LJ-style journaling services I know of so far:

An LJ comm made to help people who are planning to move. It has an entire thread devoted to getting people JournalFen invites if they want them.
[ profile] leavin_eljay

Oh, and it goes without saying that I hope we're NEVER forced to move, yes? This is just worst case scenario planning. I intend to try and keep us here on LJ for as long as humanly possible.
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Sorry to be so spammy lately! Hopefully we'll get things ironed out and formulate a plan of action soon, so the focus can go back to the fic.


Now, before I continue working on the lock down issue, I think our next step needs to be a back-up archive. It needs to be somewhere that uses LJ code, so that I can transfer the comm over (hopefully) without too much stress.

Here are the three places I know of that could work:

Home of Fandom Wank, so fandom people are a pretty big presence here. And I already have a free acct. with them, so I'm familiar with how they work. Sadly, they are not giving out free invites right now. But all that would be needed is one person with a paid acct. to request an invite, and we'd be in. Of course, the no freebies without an invite issue could prevent some of our members from following us over, which would be a huge problem...

I know nothing about this one, except that a lot of the StrikeThrough/BoldGate refugees are migrating here. Does anyone know more about it?

And finally, the land of the thousands of user icons! *g* I already have a free acct. here, so I'm familiar with how things work. And there are quite a few StrikeThrough/BoldGate refugees here as well, from what I've heard. What do other people think of it?

Please suggest any other possibilities you know of in comments. I'll compile them all into a poll and post it later today. Thanks! :-)

ETA: While I still want opinions on where a backup archive might be most at home, I think I will keep the backup offline (and update it periodically) until such a time as it is needed (though hopefully that will never happen). But I will take all the comments to this post about the possible options into account and post a poll tonight, as planned. And then I'll make an acct. at the site that we choose and post the link here. That way, if something ever does happen to this archive, you guys will already know where to look.
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I went ahead and changed the comm's security settings so all posts default to friends only. So whenever anyone posts from now on, it should automatically use the friends only setting. It still might look like it's set to public when you're writing the post, but when it goes through, it should lock down all by itself.

This does not mean we are for sure locking everything down. It can always be undone. I just figured that since the majority consensus seems to be positive (most people either think it should be locked down, or they don't think it's totally needed but won't be upset if it happens, according to the ongoing poll), it would be better to get started now. This way, if/when we start going through and requesting locks on old posts, there will be a few less we have to worry about. :-)

If, for some reason, we ultimately decide against the f-locking in the long run, I can easily change the comm's minimum security level and let people go back and unlock their posts should they wish.

More information on the proposed lock down and back up archive to come, so be on the lookout!

And please go vote in the poll if you haven't already. While I am obviously leaning more towards locking the comm down, nothing is completely set in stone, and the more people to express an opinion, the better I will be able to make a decision that's best for everyone.

In other news, the comm's new layout is finished! Yay! :-)
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I thought that more people might answer a poll, since it takes less time than writing out a comment. I'm leaning towards flocking everything at this point, since it really does seem safer, but I do want to get as much feedback as possible. Also, the second question is possibly even MORE important than the first, as it will help me figure out how I'm going to go about implementing things if I decide the flocking is definitely a go. It's all hypothetical at this point, of course, but it helps me plan more accurately, seeing as locking down the whole comm is going to be a HUGE undertaking.

Please, please, please vote! And vote honestly. That is crucial. Even if it's to tell me that you hate the idea of friends locking so much that you'd leave the comm over it, I still want to know. I want as much feedback as possible, good and bad. It's the only way to make an informed decision.

Thanks guys! :-)

[Poll #1036003]

Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, on question 2, option 2: when I say "a month" what I mean is a month's worth of fic. Like, you'd be assigned one month of past entries, and your job would be to check and see what fic hasn't been locked and comment on the posts in question requesting that the authors lock them. And then maybe check back in a few days and see if it was done.

It doesn't have to be exactly a month's worth, either. If you felt you could handle 2 or 3 months, that'd be awesome! And if you could only do, say, a week's worth, that would still be very much appreciated. Even a DAY'S worth would be helpful! *g*

ETA: We might not actually need people for question 2, option 2. [ profile] kernelm is working on a script that might take a lot of the work out of it. But please still answer that question honestly, if you don't mind. For if the script doesn't work, we'll have to go back to plan B and assign months (or weeks or days) to people.
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Okay, so it's turning into Strikethrough 07 all over again. Sigh.

In light of this, I am pondering the idea of making this comm friends only. This won't totally protect us (you can even be TOSed for locked posts), but it reduces the risk of being reported greatly, since hopefully none of our members would report posts on their own comm.

I really don't want to have to lock everything down, as I always sort of saw us as an archive of FF fic, and I hoped that perhaps people who weren't members could get just as much enjoyment out of it as those who were. However, if it's a choice between locking everything down and being TOSed (which would possibly result in my private journal AND all my other comms getting TOSed, as well), I have to go for locking it down.

Anyway, please comment to this post with your thoughts on this idea. I want to know what people think.


ETA: This doesn't have anything to do with the FO issue, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working on redesigning the comm's layout. I find when I'm stressed that it helps me calm down to do graphics and layouts and stuff. (Yes, I'm weird, lol.) And besides, the comm's been needing a facelift for a while now.

However, it's only partially complete right now (we're going to have a header graphic before I'm done, among other things), so please bear with me while I work on things.
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Just in case anyone missed it, the LJ PTBs are reinstating the deleted/suspended fandom journals, so it looks like this whole thing is going to be over soon. That there's the good news. But sadly, things don't always go smooth for us, and I want to keep our community safe, should the LJ people try something like this again.

We're going to continue locking Tamcest posts. As I said before, nothing is banned, and I don't plan on anything EVER being banned here. This community is a home to ALL kinds of Firefly/Serenity fic, and I intend to keep it that way, come hell or high water. But at the same time, I don't want anyone to have an excuse to come after this comm and destroy five years worth of our hard work! So we'll just keep the 'cesty posts locked, and hopefully they'll continue to let us have our little corner of the LJ sandbox for a long time to come.

Should the worst ever happen, though, I (with the help of a fabulous person who shall remain nameless, but you totally know who you are hon, and you ROCK!) have an archive of the entire comm. I'll try and update it with the current posts every so often, so it remains up to date. And hopefully, should we ever have need of it, we'll be able to bring everything back without too much trouble.

Of course, here's hoping we never have to use it.

And a quick note, I said before that new, unlocked Tamcest would be deleted. I will change that rule to say that I'll first leave a request/warning which asks the author to lock the post, and only if that is ignored will I move on to the next step (i.e. deletion). Now that things aren't so dire, I feel this is more fair to everyone.

Hopefully now this mess will finally end and you guys won't be stuck with so many annoying admin messages from me! ;-)
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Just a word to the wise: Please check your lj interests on your personal journals for anything that might catch the wrong person's attention and edit them accordingly. I know that there are fans of incest and/or underaged pairings in many fandoms (Tamcest, Wincest, Petrellicest, many HP pairings, etc.), and just because you happen to like a pairing that some consider objectionable, that's no reason to have your journal TOSed for posts/stories/artwork/etc. about fictional characters that contain all the proper warnings/disclaimers. So please take the appropriate precautions.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, here are some helpful links with tons of info about the whole mess. )



Please, anybody posting River/Simon fic of a romantic and/or sexual nature (i.e. Tamcest, Crazy Space Incest or CSI) to this comm, you need to lock your posts. If I see an unlocked CSI fic dated AFTER this post, I will be forced to delete it without warning. (For CSI fics dated BEFORE this post, keep reading to see how we're handling them.)

I'm sorry to require this, but until this whole thing blows over, I don't want to place the entire comm in danger. This place has been home to Firefly fanfic since 2003. If it gets TOSed, that's FIVE YEARS of fanfic that would be lost. I'm not going to outlaw CSI altogether, but we do need to be more cautious about it. So please friendslock the Tamcest from now on.

Also, if you happen to know you posted Tamcest here (or any kind of incest or underaged sexual pairings for that matter) in the past, I would appreciate it if you could go back and lock your posts. Your help in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for being so understanding about this. I repeat, nothing is being banned. I just want us to try and be more cautious about locking "objectionable" content. I have already edited the comm's interests to remove all mentions of Tamcest. Hopefully this will protect us somewhat, but I feel that locking the CSI posts is also necessary.

ETA: I will be going through the tagged R/S fic (which I realize is not all of it, as there is still a lot of older fic that hasn't been tagged) and asking authors to lock their posts. Due to time constraints, I am not going to do this for untagged fic (though if you know of an older, untagged CSI fic you posted, please do lock it), but since the tagged fic is much easier for anyone who visits us to find, I feel that it is prudent of me to be cautious with it. Again, no banning, I am just going to be requesting locks on tagged Tamcest. Thank you.

ETA2: I have updated the tagging rules (linked in the sidebar and on the userinfo page) to reflect our new locked Tamcest policy.
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It looks like the problem has been solved. I finally got in touch with one of the board mods, and they were very reasonable about this whole thing. The posts are being deleted and the bot disabled. :-)
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I have discovered that it's a bot, and not a person, that is reposting the fic at's forums. Seeing as it's just a bot, I have decided the best course of action is to simply ask for ALL the posts to be deleted and the acct. closed. You guys don't need to keep commenting with links to your fic, since I'm now asking for them all to be removed. Thank you for all your help, though, guys!

And to the people who notified me about this and supplied helpful links, info, and words of encouragement, THANK YOU! I'm extremely grateful.

~Your friendly, neighborhood mod

ETA: I have emailed the forum administrator. Hopefully this will be resolved A.S.A.P.
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I am just posting to let you guys know what's going on. It has been brought to my attention that somebody is posting all the stories from here over at without asking permission first. This person has created an account at that forum called "ff_fanfic" and is using it solely for posting the fic from this comm. They did not ask me if they could do this; I did not sanction it. However, I am going to be emailing the forum's maintainers and apprising them of the situation immediately.

I encourage you all to check the forum out and see if anything of yours has been posted without your permission. And if it has, please comment on this post with the name of the story and the url of the offending post. That way, if I need to, I can compile a list for the forum mods. Please do not email them yourselves, though. I know it's tempting, but if everyone emails them, they will have hundreds of emails all saying the same thing! Instead, please allow me to try and resolve this issue first. If I am unable to resolve it myself, I will let you all know right away so that you can take whatever action you deem appropriate.

Thank you, guys! I'm sorry this is happening, but I have faith that we'll be able to resolve it soon. I will post again here when I know more, so keep an eye out for updates.

~Your friendly, neighborhood mod :-)
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The "serenity" tag is not about the pilot episode or the BDM. It's for fic that include the starship Serenity as a major character in some way. That doesn't mean your fic about the ship Serenity can't take place during either of those times, because it can, but the timing alone does not equal use of the "serenity" tag. The ship itself MUST be a major character or play an especially important role in the fic for that tag to apply.

In other semi-related news, I'm still working on getting all the older fic tagged, but I'm not done yet. (Currently, everything BEFORE Sept. '05 and everything AFTER April '06 is tagged.) However, once I finished tagging the old fic, I will stop tagging new fic that hasn't been tagged. It will become the sole responsibility of the author to tag his or her own fic. If the fic does not get tagged, that doesn't mean it will get deleted or anything. Far from it. But once it drops off the main page (which can happen in a matter of days, or even less time than that, seeing as we have close to 900 members in this comm), it will be far less likely for it to get found by people visiting the comm if it doesn't have any tags. People will most likely be searching for fic via tags, and if it's not tagged, it won't show up when they search. So please remember to tag your fic when you post it, as it will make sure your fic doesn't "fall off the edge of the map" so to speak.

As it stands right now, I'd say about 70-75% of you are tagging your own fic as you post it (Yay you! You rock!), but the other 20-25% is going untagged until I find it and tag it myself. When I stop tagging new fic (because, honestly, I just don't have the time to do it indefinitely), those in the 20-25% group that aren't tagging will either just be missed or will have to start tagging for themselves.

Thanks, guys! :-)

~Your friendly, neighborhood mod
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We have a new tag you can use. It's the "crew" tag, and it's for any fic that features all of the crew equally. It'll definitely be easier than tagging them with all nine characters, eh?

Thanks to everyone who suggested it! :)
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Just a quick note, because I don't know if I made this clear before. If you think of a pairing you want and don't see it (i.e. you want Simon/Mal, but you look under "s" and it's not there), remember to try looking under the other person's name before making a tag request. Mal/Simon is a tag, but Simon/Mal is not. It's the same thing, though. Just like Kaylee/Jayne is a tag, but Jayne/Kaylee is not.

Thanks guys, and I hope that cleared things up a bit! :)


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